How A Zoom Nursing Interview Killed My Self-Worth


 
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By Debbie Moore-Black, RN

I have dedicated 35 years of my life as a nurse: in the ICU for 33 years and behavioral health/intensive management for the last two.

I thought it would be time to take a break from ICU nursing. Surely behavioral health would be a lot easier — kind of a slide into my near-future retirement.

I entered into the land of psychotics and schizophrenics, bipolar, homeless, dangerous patients from prison, like those serving time for killing people or assaulting them. Then there were the non-compliants that looked away from treatment, therapy and medications — the revolving door.

It wasn’t the Land of Oz. We weren’t in Kansas anymore.

I’ve enjoyed these quite interesting last two years. What an intriguing nursing profession. And I’ve learned a lot.

First: to be kind and gentle and listen and care. Your compassion for that person may be all that patient has received in a very long time.

Second: I also learned that I absolutely can’t tolerate nursing bullies. There always seems to be one cruel nurse in the bunch. I don’t do well with them. I avoid them. I definitely can’t confront them. They scare me, but they also make me angry. Because I know the fault is not in me but in them. I try to analyze this kind of nurse. Did she grow up with such anger, maybe neglect, and she’s acting out? And when management turns a blind eye to this behavior, the environment becomes toxic.

I valued my safety and the safety of the staff and the patients. And when management chose the budget over safety — even though they professed to be “the best” after seeing and hearing of dangerous incidents one after the other — I knew I’d have to look for a job yet again.

Maybe I’d go back to ICU at a smaller hospital with lower acuities. Maybe I’d find myself as an ER behavioral health professional who provided 24/7 public safety officers.

I applied to three different positions.

I’m 65 years old. And I have 10 months left before retirement.

I would think with my 33 years of ICU experience, my last few years in behavioral health/intensive management, that I’d be an easy “yes.”

But all three turned me down.

Was it because I only had 10 months left to retire?

Or was it because I lost my “filter”?

I lost the “right” things to say during an interview.

Question: “What are your long-term goals?”

My answer: To take a long, much-needed vacation to the Bahamas. I deserve it (chuckle).

Question: “What would you bring to the table here in the ER with all of your expertise?”

My answer: First, I’d buy you a brand new coffee pot! I have to have my coffee. And you all definitely need a better brand!

I thought they’d catch my humor?

Obviously, they did not.

I was honest, though. Sometimes they don’t want you to be honest.

But during this Zoom interview, I also added my years of experience, my current, and active certifications, that I was a killer at starting IVs and that the most important lesson to ever learn or carry out with patients is kindness and sincerity.

Both of these go a long way. And whether a patient is in the ICU, ER or behavioral health, they’ve all been injured, mentally, physically or both.

In my long years of being a nurse, kindness has to be at the top.

I was turned down, one after the other. I felt my self-worth had hit rock bottom. I use to be this “famous” ICU nurse, and now I’m this fading 65 year old.

So here I stand. 10 months to go. Maybe these other jobs just weren’t meant to be.

Maybe I can no longer filter out what they want to hear.

I’ve had 35 years of incredible memories, incredible nurses and physicians and respiratory therapists, all of us connecting the dots in life through work, through our “grits therapy breakfast,” and through our trauma and triumphs in nursing and our own lives.

I guess I’m just supposed to “stay put” until the winds blow me into my next journey in life.


 
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COMMENTS

  • Definitely because you only have 10months to go. Don’t take it personally.

  • Definitely because you only have 10months to go. Don’t take it personally.

  • You clearly have a lot to offer as a nurse, and interviewers want to hear about it. Joking around in an interview just distracts their attention from the professional you.

  • You clearly have a lot to offer as a nurse, and interviewers want to hear about it. Joking around in an interview just distracts their attention from the professional you.

  • Your article really touched me. I have 30 years experience as a nurse, and worked in every unit in the hospital at one time or another, including dialysis. At age 59, I had a zoom interview for a position working in a cardiologist office (I'm well qualified). Maybe it's all in my head, but I felt OLD, being interviewed by representatives who looked about 20 years old. I didn't get the job. I can't help but feel like their decision was made as soon as they saw me. So now I tell myself, "That's ok, I didn't really want to work that hard, anyway. "

  • Your article really touched me. I have 30 years experience as a nurse, and worked in every unit in the hospital at one time or another, including dialysis. At age 59, I had a zoom interview for a position working in a cardiologist office (I'm well qualified). Maybe it's all in my head, but I felt OLD, being interviewed by representatives who looked about 20 years old. I didn't get the job. I can't help but feel like their decision was made as soon as they saw me. So now I tell myself, "That's ok, I didn't really want to work that hard, anyway. "

  • Cheryl Ann Gould

    May 15, 2021 13:16 55

    I am a DNP and have been a PMHNP for 18 years. I've been in psychiatric nursing for 34 years total including in management. I am 60 years old so, like the author, I'm no youngster. Her comment "I thought it would be time to take a break from ICU nursing. Surely behavioral health would be a lot easier — kind of a slide into my near-future retirement" made me livid! When I was a program director, I interviewed several nurses who said that. I did not hire any of them. I found, and still find, the attitude that behavioral health nursing is easy insulting. It is not easy if you are really doing a good job.

  • Dear Debbie, It seems with the new breed of nurse, the correctness of our speaking even upon an interview is important to those receiving the information. However, I'm with you. I have almost 30 years of critical care experience, ICU/PCU/Telemetry, ER, plus wound care, mental health, nurse case manager in Neurology with program development and have put in an extravagant amount of time and effort in my career. With that in mind, QI nor other areas were interested in me with my BSN and certifications in hand, the entry point for other careers has not been available. I would assume because I'm honest. Kudos to you for publishing this article! And saying what all of us "older girls" think.

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